[ lucas has now trapped himself into this conversation about his totally normal catholic tradition
then plainly: ] I am curious to know you.
The origin of your faith, what shakes it, what unmakes it.
[ a pause, thoughtful ]
You shared what prompted you to question it, but I cannot question something that I have never known. The only force I have ever believed in was and is myself. So how is it that you've found and adopted something into yourself that relies on a force outside of your own power?
The way his expression doesn't change but his body language does in tiny and barely noticeable ways that SPEAK TO HIS RAPIDLY INCREASING LEVELS OF DISCOMFORT. He regrets saying ANYTHING ACTUALLY!! Lightly:]
I believe you're requesting an examination rather than a conversation at that point.
[The actual question at hand, though, he'll ponder over for a moment or two, folding his arms daintily across his middle as he thinks.]
...I suppose the simplest answer is, there are some things that one can't manage through the force of their own power.
[ they do a very obvious once over of lucas then, head to toe, taking in all those tiny, microscopic ways that he shows his discomfort. oops but not oops because they don't look sorry. suffer ]
You may ask questions of me in return.
[ though they still don't seem entirely convinced, even if their tone is otherwise openly curious ]
What obstacles did you encounter? How have they been removed?
What sort of curiosity drives you? [The question is lobbed back almost immediately like he is desperate to get the conversational ball out of his court.]
Are we speaking of obstacles to faith, specifically?
[NOTHING WILL BE WELL!!!!!! THIS IS SO FUCKING SPECIFIC AND HE IS DISPLEASED though it only shows in the faintest of dainty little frowns.]
You should take care with curiosity like that.
[Binch is gonna look into something surprising someday and die about it. There is also a bit of a pause where he's considering what he wants to say to the rest of this... Eventually:]
Someone very dear to me needed help in a way neither myself nor anyone else could do anything about.
[He could probably try to ease his way around the answer he'd rather not give in this case, but there is perhaps some biting little part of him that's still buttmad about being called on his entirely super definitely unintentional avoidance earlier.]
That person got the help that was needed. I would rather not answer beyond that.
[THE WAY HE'S SO INTERNALLY TIGHTLY WOUND BY THE TIME THEY SAY ANYTHING that it comes as even more of a surprise when their response isn't anything needling or pushy. He relaxes perhaps the tiniest of fractions, and his smile is small but genuine.]
Thank you.
[Though this just makes him tired in turn because it reminds him of (redacted). Life is a nightmare but one carries ever onward!!
He considers his question for a moment.]
You say that the only force you believe in is yourself. Does that mean you've never run into something you couldn't handle alone?
[ they continue to watch lucas like a hawk. that's fine surely. but then they cross their arms and pause to think about the answer they want to give ]
No. Not exactly. While I do believe in myself first and foremost, I was not always alone. Everything that I was able to accomplish was done through a matter of my own active choices. Choosing who to trust, who to listen to, and who to offer help.
Collaboration is worthwhile when the right individuals are selected.
However, I can see all my allies. They are concretes to place faith in, not spiritual messengers.
You mentioned that you sought out your faith because there was something that others could not help you with—so either the people you're surrounded by are incompetent or you didn't look hard enough.
The context you provided me was limited. [ wonder why ] And so I can only draw conclusions based on the difference between us. If all my needs have been answered by my environment, I can only presume that yours haven't.
That you encountered something out of your own capability, so only your supposed god could answer.
I can't say I'm very fond of your quick-drawn conclusions, but I'm more concerned that you could easily make others very uncomfortable or upset if you don't handle topics like this carefully.
It's nothing personal; only a little due caution. [He says, as if he is the sort of person who opens up to anyone at any point in time in any situation.]
[ they seem to know how they come off. though they do make an open-handed gesture. they have no other questions for now so lucas can decide the next conversation point. or leave. i would personally leave ]
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then plainly: ] I am curious to know you.
The origin of your faith, what shakes it, what unmakes it.
[ a pause, thoughtful ]
You shared what prompted you to question it, but I cannot question something that I have never known. The only force I have ever believed in was and is myself. So how is it that you've found and adopted something into yourself that relies on a force outside of your own power?
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The way his expression doesn't change but his body language does in tiny and barely noticeable ways that SPEAK TO HIS RAPIDLY INCREASING LEVELS OF DISCOMFORT. He regrets saying ANYTHING ACTUALLY!! Lightly:]
I believe you're requesting an examination rather than a conversation at that point.
[The actual question at hand, though, he'll ponder over for a moment or two, folding his arms daintily across his middle as he thinks.]
...I suppose the simplest answer is, there are some things that one can't manage through the force of their own power.
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You may ask questions of me in return.
[ though they still don't seem entirely convinced, even if their tone is otherwise openly curious ]
What obstacles did you encounter? How have they been removed?
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HE IS SUFFERING.]
What sort of curiosity drives you? [The question is lobbed back almost immediately like he is desperate to get the conversational ball out of his court.]
Are we speaking of obstacles to faith, specifically?
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What I don't understand and what surprises me.
[ their answer is even and unbothered in comparison ]
I am speaking of the obstacle that you could not overcome with your own power that led you to find your faith.
[ so specific purely to make it harder for lucas to weasel out of ]
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You should take care with curiosity like that.
[Binch is gonna look into something surprising someday and die about it. There is also a bit of a pause where he's considering what he wants to say to the rest of this... Eventually:]
Someone very dear to me needed help in a way neither myself nor anyone else could do anything about.
[Or. WOULD!!!!]
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[ their curiosity.... look at this very wholesome and kind and wonderful conversation they're getting to have with lucas wowee
they continue to press on this very obvious wound in a very wholesome and kind way ]
So you turned to prayer? Who is this person and what happened to them?
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That person got the help that was needed. I would rather not answer beyond that.
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famine seems to just watch lucas for a long, loooooong moment. after that moment passes, with surprising sincerity— ]
I'm glad that they're well.
[ another pause
and then an open-handed gesture. lucas can ask something in return now after he's been grilled over the coals ]
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Thank you.
[Though this just makes him tired in turn because it reminds him of (redacted). Life is a nightmare but one carries ever onward!!
He considers his question for a moment.]
You say that the only force you believe in is yourself. Does that mean you've never run into something you couldn't handle alone?
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No. Not exactly. While I do believe in myself first and foremost, I was not always alone. Everything that I was able to accomplish was done through a matter of my own active choices. Choosing who to trust, who to listen to, and who to offer help.
Collaboration is worthwhile when the right individuals are selected.
However, I can see all my allies. They are concretes to place faith in, not spiritual messengers.
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Anyway wow what's it like to have real people to rely on... Wild... Sounds fake honestly...]
I can see why you would be curious to understand more about different placements of faith, in that case.
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that is the realization that seems to hit them next as they then ask— ]
Would you then consider yourself someone who is, more often than not, alone?
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Goodness, no. How in the world did you come to that conclusion?
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You mentioned that you sought out your faith because there was something that others could not help you with—so either the people you're surrounded by are incompetent or you didn't look hard enough.
The context you provided me was limited. [ wonder why ] And so I can only draw conclusions based on the difference between us. If all my needs have been answered by my environment, I can only presume that yours haven't.
That you encountered something out of your own capability, so only your supposed god could answer.
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You're making a great deal of assumptions based on very little context. In any case, my answer remains unchanged.
[He's not alone he has the power of god and anime on his side.]
I'd also suggest that, should you take me up on my offer to speak with others about their faith, you adjust your approach a bit.
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[ said in the tone of "try me" ]
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[Why do so many of these fucks need to be socialized it's almost like weird people are prone to joining cults.]
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[ i wonder ]
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I can't say I'm very fond of your quick-drawn conclusions, but I'm more concerned that you could easily make others very uncomfortable or upset if you don't handle topics like this carefully.
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I did not mean to make you upset. Though I do think it would benefit you to be more honest.
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I'm not upset, but thank you. There's a difference between being honest and being open with a veritable stranger, as well.
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But if you ask me in return, I will offer you no lies.
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Thank you for understanding, though.
[And for this SUSPICIOUS OFFER OF HONESTY.]
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I don't care if it's personal.
[ they seem to know how they come off. though they do make an open-handed gesture. they have no other questions for now so lucas can decide the next conversation point. or leave. i would personally leave ]
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