People dying this quickly is the cult's fault in the first place.
[ the cult and also lucas, but time is fake and idk he doesn't know about lucas yet ]
I don't think it'd be too much of a surprise to them if people got fed up with their situation and killed, for example, Pestilence in retaliation. It'd make sense, nothing suspicious about it.
...You don't see the pointlessness of killing someone who could be replaced with a cultist who actually wants all of you dead, when you can just call them for help?
It makes you sound like you want to see them again.
Besides, like you said—it was quick. [ ... ] I'm not bothered by what happened to me. But it's normal to be deeply affected by trauma, like death. I know that.
[ Even so... There are many analogies karma could make, different arguments, but this isn't a debate nor a belief so easily overturned. In the end, the only thing he can do is to share his own thoughts on the matter, why he thinks the way he does. Even if it changes nothing, it's important to state his viewpoint. That's one thing he had learned from... ]
...my sensei... is in a similarly complicated position. He's not actively hurting anybody right now, but if he continues to live, it will be at the expense of all life on the planet. Even so! He wants to live and I don't want him to die! You think to yourself that you're a horrible person and that the world is better off without you but that's not true. There's so much more I want to do together. There's so much more I want to learn from you.
So maybe you're not afraid of death. Fine. But don't you dare be so blasé about it: that's an insult to everybody who cares about you.
[ ah. okay. this is a more spirited reaction than he was expecting. his ears perk up in surprise, then twitch. as disaffected as he usually is, he's clearly at a bit of a loss now, very thoroughly chastised. ]
[ lil embarrassed thanks and then he's running away, yeah, he can't stand this so he's going to be an absolute hellion for the next two weeks to make up for it ]
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[ the cult and also lucas, but time is fake and idk he doesn't know about lucas yet ]
I don't think it'd be too much of a surprise to them if people got fed up with their situation and killed, for example, Pestilence in retaliation. It'd make sense, nothing suspicious about it.
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It makes you sound like you want to see them again.
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I just want to have everybody together again. That's all.
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[ ideally. he is aware of karma's logic and does not outright reject it. ]
I know we resurrect here, but the process of dying is unkind all the same.
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[ Just keep the option on the table, is all he asks. ]
And yeah, you don't have to tell me twice how bad it was. At least for you, it was quick and painless...?
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[ he doesn't have to worry, he is constantly aware of the nuclear option. ]
I mean more for you all than in my case in general, yes.
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[ DEATH IS DEATH you would think nehan would know, with that namesake ]
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[ it's different ]
Besides, like you said—it was quick. [ ... ] I'm not bothered by what happened to me. But it's normal to be deeply affected by trauma, like death. I know that.
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[ normal? deeply affected by trauma? both of those. ]
A fear of death is healthy. It means you want to live. So to say that you're not afraid...
[ that makes him a little angry ]
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he seems to consider his words more carefully for a second; there's no great answer to this. ]
...I was afraid to die for a long time. And I did a lot of harm, trying to stay alive. I don't want to be in that position again.
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[ Even so... There are many analogies karma could make, different arguments, but this isn't a debate nor a belief so easily overturned. In the end, the only thing he can do is to share his own thoughts on the matter, why he thinks the way he does. Even if it changes nothing, it's important to state his viewpoint. That's one thing he had learned from... ]
...my sensei... is in a similarly complicated position. He's not actively hurting anybody right now, but if he continues to live, it will be at the expense of all life on the planet. Even so! He wants to live and I don't want him to die! You think to yourself that you're a horrible person and that the world is better off without you but that's not true. There's so much more I want to do together. There's so much more I want to learn from you.
So maybe you're not afraid of death. Fine. But don't you dare be so blasé about it: that's an insult to everybody who cares about you.
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...Sorry.
[ ... ]
There's... a lot I want to teach you, too.
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Good.
[ He doesn't know what to say. this is so awkward. what if he just turns around and leaves like "cool. good talk." ]
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...Karma. Look after yourself. This place is better because of you, too.
[ anyway wow this is from week 2 so he really can escape if this is too much ]
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[ lil embarrassed thanks and then he's running away, yeah, he can't stand this so he's going to be an absolute hellion for the next two weeks to make up for it ]